Dato Koppla
Elite Guards
Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 23:22:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Zarnak Wulf wrote: Slasher fit will do 6.4 km/s without links overheated. Yes, lets use a simple T1 frigate with a full snake set when we compare ships, because that surely makes sense and isn't at all about bragging rights and comparing apples and oranges. Because the other ship couldn't at all do the same thing (to at least compare the same stuff), nooooo we're going to assume super amazing implants and then state the target is a low sp clown that didn't use any. We're talking kiting fits, Rifter and how minnie has issues there atm, your "lulz implants yo, my Slasher goes into scram range and pops some fools" has zero meaning here. Also, your rifter fit gets killed by the first Executioner, condor or atron it runs into, which goes back to my original statement; Scram kiters are in trouble since the frigate rebalancing.
He said without links, and for reference:
[Slasher, PvP Anti-Inty]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
6.1km/s overheated
This fit can easily run down all the other T1 long point kiters and demolish them before they can kill you, especially things like the Executioner and Atron because they will usually be using beams/rails so you can get under their guns easily, Condors not so much but those tend to be paper tanked.
but yeah, the Rifter is definitely in a sad spot and personally I haven't flown one for ages so I don't really know how it performs, but I was just confirming that the Slasher is pretty amazing.
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:Right now the T1 Minnie Frigates are quite lackluster.
As a pilot who has flown the Slasher/Firetail exclusively for a year now, I'm of the opinion that the biggest problem is damage projection. Falloff sounds great and all, but quiet often when matched up against many other Frigs you just don't have the tank to be operating in deep fall off (edge of scram if autocannon fit).
I'm not saying that the Minnie T1 Frigs are horrible, more just I think the damage projection is quiet lackluster. The Slasher DPS is laughable, Rifter slightly more and now slightly better damage projection in Frig vs Frig battles....
Overall, I would say meh.... it's was worth a look, but I'm certainly not going to fly to Jita to purchase some.
I probably am a little biased though, considering I have recently decided to cross-train into Amarr ships. Currently, the Minmatar ship line-up overall is just lackluster in comparison to the other races IMO.
I'd disagree on the Slasher, it's a pretty darn good ship IMO, I personally like the TD/AB/Scram fit, it's really quite good against many other fits. The Breacher is also an amazing ship, it can have a huge tank, quite good dps, is immune to TDs and scram kiting, and is also really fast, easily one of my favourite T1 frigs. It's only the Rifter that's lackluster IMO. |
Dato Koppla
Elite Guards
Stealth Wear Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.14 02:55:00 -
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Ayeshah Volfield wrote:IP Freeely wrote:I'm putting this in EFT (all skills to 5) and coming up a bit over on power and not quite that fast. Is this with implants? I'm curious as I'm new and this is an intriguing fit.
Cheers. Overheat the MWD, should read 6117 m/s. It does go a bit over the PG so either buy a cheap 3% PG implant or use 125mm guns instead.
Yeah it's a little over on PG, I didn't notice at first because I had genolution implants in which are cheap and really useful. It's definitely a good little ship though, with some good use of the neut and close orbiting you can also win against brawlers but it's quite iffy especially if the brawler is AB fit cause they'd likely break your tank before you can kill them. |